Would Vegeta rather Goku have turned SSJ3 instead of concealing it

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Would Vegeta rather Goku have turned SSJ3 instead of concealing it; Vegeta's humiliation
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AvatarReiko	Apr 11 2014, 07:20 AM Post #1
Posts: 493 Group: Member Member #10,670 Joined: January 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Bleach, Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Bleach	When Vegeta returns to Earth to fight Buu, Goku finds him and discovers that Vegeta was angry and felt humiliated that Goku had hid SSJ3 from him during their battle. It is believed that Goku didn't use his trump card because he thought it would have been unnecessary and counterproductive but more importantly, it would have damaged Vegeta's pride. Would Vegeta have reacted better if Goku had tuned SSJ3 instead of lying to him making him think that'd he was indeed stronger than him.



Vertical	Apr 11 2014, 07:25 AM Post #2
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Vegeta would've probably cried... or Freeza'd the planet out of frustration.
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Toji	Apr 11 2014, 09:07 AM Post #3
ザラブファントム Posts: 1,102 Group: Member Member #5,229 Joined: September 11, 2010 Gender Other What Browser do you use? Chrome	I think he would've just been pissed in general if Goku went all out. The problem was that Goku didn't give Vegeta the decency to fight at his best, and instead his actions were rather condescending in Vegeta's eyes.
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+ Emmeth	Apr 11 2014, 09:20 AM Post #4
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Make no mistakes, Goku didn't transform not because of Vegeta's pride. He couldn't give less s***s about the Prince's pride. As for OP, I don't know how Vegeta would've reacted. He might have realized earlier how futile it is to keep up with Goku, because he's always one step ahead. Then again, it might've inspired him to do better, we all know the Saiyans' nature.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 11 2014, 08:22 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I think he probably would've realized that goku is better than him rather than realize it later during their fight with kid buu
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+ Pyrus	Apr 11 2014, 08:54 PM Post #6
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Do you know what it's like fighting your mortal enemy and having your victory ripped away from you because you found out he wasn't giving it his all? That he held back on you?! It's humiliating, mind-numbing, a terrible feeling no matter how it's looked at. It makes you feel unworthy, less of a warrior, weak, pathetic. If I'm going to fight someone, I want to fight them at their best. No games, no holding back, no inhibitions. Without that, it's not true victory.
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AvatarReiko	Apr 11 2014, 09:24 PM Post #7
Posts: 493 Group: Member Member #10,670 Joined: January 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Bleach, Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Bleach	To a degree, Goku was quite justifiable in that he didn't use SSJ3 in his fight with Vegeta. SSJ3 drains a considerable amount of Ki and shortens the time Goku can stay on Earth.



Vertical	Apr 11 2014, 10:14 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Would Goku have really needed to fight at all if he had gone SSJ3 though? Surely the display of power [and standing there for a few seconds] would've been enough to end any immediate motivation Vegeta had... and if not, simply knock him out in a single punch. And like has been said, Goku couldn't care less about it injuring Vegeta's pride. So, from an in-Universe perspective, why not use it?
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+ Yusuke	Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM Post #9
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Goku didn't use SSJ3 because... - The transformation itself is lengthy and takes a lot of time to complete. - It would drain his remaining time on Earth. - Even more energy would go to Majin Buu. Vegeta's pride had nothing with him not going SSJ3. Though I will admit it would be pretty hilarious seeing Vegeta having a mental breakdown when he realizes the Majin boost was useless.
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AvatarReiko	Apr 11 2014, 11:38 PM Post #10
Posts: 493 Group: Member Member #10,670 Joined: January 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Bleach, Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Bleach	Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM Goku didn't use SSJ3 because... - Even more energy would go to Majin Buu. Ki only goes to Majin Buu when Majin Vegeta inflicts actual physical damage to Goku. ''Any damage I receive will just be sent to Majin Buu'' Goku stated this when he suggested that they skipped the warm up. If Goku had gone SSJ3, the fight would have been over instantly as Vegeta would have not be en able to stand up against SSJ3's power. Goku SSJ3 had the edge over Fat Buu, whom was significantly stronger than Majin Vegeta



Vertical	Apr 12 2014, 01:26 AM Post #11
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM - The transformation itself is lengthy and takes a lot of time to complete. There was plenty of time while they were talking/transforming pre-battle. Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM - It would drain his remaining time on Earth. Less than he lost fighting Buu... and Buu would've not been summoned... so he 1 hits Vegeta, then goes through the ship and 1 hits Dabura... the end. Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM - Even more energy would go to Majin Buu. None would. Everyone talks about Vegeta's pride/ego... but what about Goku's? He hardly ever ends battles as efficiently as he could... trying to match his opponent and get the most out of the battle itself... Goku's desire to enjoy a battle has cost a lot of lives throughout the series... this situation was no different.
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vegkuhanlo	Apr 12 2014, 05:11 AM Post #12
Posts: 10 Group: New Member Member #10,995 Joined: March 11, 2014	Vertical Apr 12 2014, 01:26 AM Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM - The transformation itself is lengthy and takes a lot of time to complete. There was plenty of time while they were talking/transforming pre-battle. Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM - It would drain his remaining time on Earth. Less than he lost fighting Buu... and Buu would've not been summoned... so he 1 hits Vegeta, then goes through the ship and 1 hits Dabura... the end. Yusuke Urameshi Apr 11 2014, 10:35 PM - Even more energy would go to Majin Buu. None would. Everyone talks about Vegeta's pride/ego... but what about Goku's? He hardly ever ends battles as efficiently as he could... trying to match his opponent and get the most out of the battle itself... Goku's desire to enjoy a battle has cost a lot of lives throughout the series... this situation was no different. ^This. and you know, just one line or one short dialogue would have made the story better and make gokus character more interestng..something like: Vegeta: wait kakarto, I have one question to ask you?'at the time why didnt you go ssj3 and end our battle quickly, you could of then erased babidi before time Goku: the truth is vegeta, I didnt believe Kai, I thought buu would have been weak, as everything kai spoke of wasnt true, so I took my only opportunity for a good fight before My one day was up. (smiles) Vegeta: you were just as bad as me hahaha But obviously we all know the reason is Akira didnt think of it at the time.. edit: I honestly think vegeta would have just given up, he gave his all training and preparing for gokus return, only to find out that goku was still a step ahead. he then found a quick way to become equal to him. If goku had gone ssg3 it would put all doubts in his mine of ever passing his rival. He may then open a restaurant, collect all the money and ** all the b! Edited by vegkuhanlo**, Apr 12 2014, 05:28 AM.



+ Pyrus	Apr 12 2014, 06:21 AM Post #13
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Vegeta gave up against Freeza. There's hardly room to deny he would've given up against a Super Saiyan 3, especially Goku.
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dangerousbob	Apr 13 2014, 06:35 AM Post #14
Posts: 239 Group: Member Member #8,141 Joined: August 17, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Elfen Lied, Black Lagoon, DBZ	Vertical Apr 11 2014, 10:14 PM Would Goku have really needed to fight at all if he had gone SSJ3 though? Surely the display of power [and standing there for a few seconds] would've been enough to end any immediate motivation Vegeta had... and if not, simply knock him out in a single punch. And like has been said, Goku couldn't care less about it injuring Vegeta's pride. So, from an in-Universe perspective, why not use it? He was saving the Energy (and time) to fight Buu. Also its debatable just how much stronger SSJ3 is then Majin SSj2. They both did a number on buu and towards the end of the series the gap is shown to be even smaller. I dont think a SSJ3 goku could one shot a Majin Vegeta. To be honest I think it would be closer to SSJ3 goku fighting fat buu. Where he has a slight edge but its still a struggle. then there is the whole BOG business suggesting that a SSJ2 can be pushed over SSJ3... but yeah the movies. Edited by dangerousbob, Apr 13 2014, 06:37 AM.
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AvatarReiko	Apr 13 2014, 06:50 AM Post #15
Posts: 493 Group: Member Member #10,670 Joined: January 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Bleach, Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Bleach	dangerousbob Apr 13 2014, 06:35 AM Vertical Apr 11 2014, 10:14 PM Would Goku have really needed to fight at all if he had gone SSJ3 though? Surely the display of power [and standing there for a few seconds] would've been enough to end any immediate motivation Vegeta had... and if not, simply knock him out in a single punch. And like has been said, Goku couldn't care less about it injuring Vegeta's pride. So, from an in-Universe perspective, why not use it? He was saving the Energy (and time) to fight Buu. Also its debatable just how much stronger SSJ3 is then Majin SSj2. They both did a number on buu and towards the end of the series the gap is shown to be even smaller. I dont think a SSJ3 goku could one shot a Majin Vegeta. To be honest I think it would be closer to SSJ3 goku fighting fat buu. Where he has a slight edge but its still a struggle. then there is the whole BOG business suggesting that a SSJ2 can be pushed over SSJ3... but yeah the movies. I am not too Sure about. Goku's SSJ3 power was so immense that his KI could be felt from the other world, which is really something and shows how powerful he was. Majin Vegeat stood no chance against Buu, yet Goku at SSJ3 bested him. Goku even outright states that if Vegeta couldn't beat him neither could he, but I don't think he was taking SSJ3 into a account. As soon as Goku starts transforming, Vegeta would realise that he was beaten.



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